Torture is bad, except when it isn't

MI5 chief defends links with foreign agencies accused of torture | UK news | guardian.co.uk

"Given the pressing need to understand and uncover al-Qaida's plans, were we to deal, however circumspectly, with those security services who had experience of working against al-Qaida on their own territory? Or were we to refuse to deal with them, accepting that in so doing we would be cutting off a potentially vital source of information that would prevent attacks in the west?"

Fuck me, you were to refuse to deal with them!!! You can't have it both ways, constantly issuing statements saying "we do not condone torture and will not work with anyone who tortures", while at the same time saying "we had to secure Britain and using evidence obtained through torture was a price worth paying". Studies show time and time again that people tortured will say anything you want. If I had electrodes on my testicles I would say whatever they wanted to hear to make them stop.